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Old 04-17-2003, 04:03 PM   #1
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hmm, im searching some forums and what do i see? a guy on saturnfans running 12+ PSI and whats happening? its a 2002 and hes BLOWN 8 HEADGASKETS. now, not to be a dick, but since theres so MANT INTERNET EXPERTS OUT THERE GIVING FALSE ADVICE....wasnt it one of the moderators at turbosaturns.net, ian, who continually ragged on my saying oh my car has NEVER blown a stock head gasket, wasnt there a couple of others with BOLT ON KITS saying oh, joe you dont know hat your talking about, you dont need a copper head gasket , NOW, this customer seems to have his work done at sms, next to me we are the single biggest builders of custom saturn engines, but hey we dont know what were talking about! see, the EXPERTS, the kid who just bolted on his first turbo and read corky bells book, now THATS an expert.
gee, 8 headgaskets on a 02, at 12 PSI, gee, i guess those copper head gaskets i talked about so much really werent neccasery. and i guess sms doesnt know what their doing either, but hey you can awlays talk to quicksl2 and HES an expert..... LOL
now that were seeing peole run higher boost, NOW people will maybe start to listen BEFORE they blow EIGHT head gaskets.
next, theres a post about ododmeters, did anyone tell this guy that joes one of the only shops in the country that actually rebuilds them and knows a LITTLE ABOUT what goes on in them? nope, jsut some experts telling him, hey it must be the VSS (vehicle speed sensor) hello....
lets clear this up , there is a little gear that runs BOTH THE TRIP METER AND ODOMETER in pre 95 saturns, IF YOU USE THE TRIP METER IT IS INEVITABLE YOU WILL BLOW THE GEAR.
now, ocne it blows it ALSO RUNS THE ODOMETER thats why 90% of pre 95 saturns come into my yard with BROKEN odos and the trip set at "000"
but hey, you know, im just a blow hard and have no idea what im talking about, all these experts on other boards that will look for ANY reason to question ANYTHING i do, did any of them answer this man and tell him its a CHEAP ASS ,30 CENT PLASTIC GEAR THAT RUNS BOTH THE ODO AND THE TRIP METER?
no, of course not, so when you need REAL help, try using a board thats dedicated to bringing you TRUE saturn techs and experts, people that KNOW what their talking about and can give you the REAL answers.
if anyone would like to inform this person over in saturnfans tech section, we are one of the only places i the country that not only rebuilds them BUT we use a SOLID PLASTIC COG, the saturn ones were not only tiny and designed for planned oboslenence, to make matter WORSE, they HOLLOWED OUT THE PLASTIC GEAR EVEN FURTHER TO ESNURE IT WOULD BREAK BOTH THE ODO AND THE TRIP METER. our gears are solid. once rebuilt they dont break again it took me TWO YEARS OF DEDICATED SEARCHING TO FIND THESE REBUILD GEARS.
also, while im on my rant, how many people remeber the great debate between me and piney? the guy who for YEARS has bashed me cause the wheels i sent him were NOT CLEAN enough, so thats enough to ruin hundreds of sales as he jumps on every post on satfans where someone refers me. BUT TODAY, he claims all his first jobs were detailing CARS, yet in both his emails and his posts years ago what does he say? oh, i dont know how to clean them, did he ever takeit to bbb or small claims court? NO causes hes a frikkin WINDBAG, he also lied about being a cop by the way.
so, you wanna know why i cant post on satfans and some other boards? why someone with years of dedicated expereince with saturns cant go and clear up misconceptions cause it WAS THE BABYS WHO CRIED joes a bad man cause he 'scrwed piney" oh yeah i screwed SO many people i donthave a single bbb complaint or have never been brought into small claims. know why? cause you HAVE TO HAVE A LEGIT COMPLAINT to file.
what brought on this onslaught of venting? cause its pretty ****ing sad how hard ive worked to try and e the best i can be in my feild, only to have les then TEN PEOPLE TALK THE SAME SMACK ABOUT ME THAT DONT KNOW DICK ABOUT TURNING A WRENCH. i see people all the time on other boards ( at least on satfans tommy and wolfie are there to give soem decent solid advice) putting up posts and either getting the DUMBEST ANSWERS OR TOTALLY WRONG ANSWERS, BY SOME expert that READ everything he knows on some webpage.
yup, copper head gaskets have been used for years on high compression, nitrous and turbo engines. BUT RUN MORE THEN 5 PSI AND MAYBE YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT THE **** YOUR TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU OPENLY CRITISIZE ME AND MAKE AN ASS OUT OF YOURSELF.
no, i dont know everything but you know what i KNOW ALLOT MORE THEN SOME DUMB ASS THAT SLAPPED HIS FIRST TURBO KIT ON A CAR AND CLAIMS THAT IM WASTING MY CUSTOMERS MONEY BY USING COPPER HEAD GASKETS, OH, CAUSE HEY, im running a whopping 5 psi and IVE NEVER BLOWN A HEAD GASKET.
i dont care is someone wants to learn or questions my techniques but when you run a forum dedicated to "turbo saturns" and openly bash everything i say or do, thats not helpful, that filling peoples head with useless drivel about bull**** misconceptions.
anyone know how many times tkt 0015 has been run up over 14 psi? and how many people have claimed to be experts and say that the saturn pcms cannot be tricked, gee last i checked to get more hp you need tTWO THINGS more FUEL AND MORE AIR COMING IN, be it via turbo, supercharger, custom porting and polsihing OR EXTRA INJECTORS.
building a fast saturn isnt rocket sceince, its just a shame that a few people that have slapped a couple of nos kits on cars, or built a couple of turbo engines running maybe 5 psi at best have to conflict everything i say....
last without asking anyone to get into conflict, it would be nice when you see someone on another forum searching for an answer, i have seen simple posts on "other boards: of people looking for easy advice without ONE response, would it be so hard to say hey check out 6th planet.
then when 2-3 people that are haters try and turn it into a bash joey post, simply say, gee the guy has 20 THOUSAND customers on file. 400 orders a MONTH go out, you think we can make EVERYONE HAPPY? of course not, but considering that my record is spotless, if someone had an even remotley legit complaint why is there not one single bbb or paypal complaint?
cause when someone gets an answer they dont want to hear LIKE MAYBE YOU WERE ABUSING THE **** OUT OF THAT TRANNY I SENT YOU AND THATS WHY YOU BLEW 8 DIFFERENTIAL PINS, then im automaticlaly the bad guy, now the inexpereinced driver. no, its joes fault.
ok, rant off, how bout it people, without drama can we keep my name up when someone needs help?
by the way the TRUTH always comes to light, i have a check in the mail from a certain someones for 450.00, WHY? cuase they went nad tried to JUSTIFY something they HAD NO PROOF of and thought they would HOLD something over my head, i better fix them, i OWE THEM, even if it WAS abuse....see bull**** like this, one unhappy person, has gone and admitted to me that he has inetnaionally tried to ruin as much business for me as he can. why? cause he knows i did nothing wrong, but to JUSTIFY he had to go on all the boards, and im the bad guy, see i banned this person, and it was their sole intent, as spoken i thier own words in yesterdays email TO RUIN AS MUCH BUSINESS FOR ME AS POSSIBLE, simply cause they found out YES THEY WERE WRONG, NO YOU CANT STOP A CHECK CAUSE YOU WANT TO JUSTIFY SOMETHING THATS NOT EVEN BEEN LOOKED AT BY ANOTHER PROFFESIONAL, no, you want to make your own rules, you played the game, you lost.
i have endured years of BULL**** by trying to help people, sure im a little rough around the edges. BUT DO I TAKE YOUR MONEY, MAKE YOU WAIT 4 MONTHS, LIE TO YOU EVERY TIME YOU CALL THEN CLOSE UP SHOP? NO, I HAVE BEEN HERE FROM DAY ONE, we were the FIRST BUSINESS TO BANK THE RANCH on saturns and how am i paid back? out of every 2000 customers the one pinhead that ordered a console and we didnt throw in a FREE EMBLEM OR SOMETHING, THAT makes me such a bad person as to bad mouth me for years....
now i ask you, it would be nice to see more recomendations on othe rbaords when someone needs help.
i will help them, i will give them a fair price ( i am not in business to give stuff away, the IDEA of me going to WORK is to actually make enough to meet payroll , bills, etc.)
that is all, im off my soapbox now....

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Old 04-17-2003, 04:12 PM   #2
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oh my word that's funny. Whew Joey and his books
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Old 04-17-2003, 04:54 PM   #5
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jeoy just needed to vent
ok hows this sound, we get a customer who says hes HIGHLY RECOMENDED TO US, highly i might add, so he books an a/c job we CLEARLY exlain to him my guys are working partial days as were shutting down any day now for our wedding and if you must cancel please call.
no, everythings fine hes coming in today and leaving his keys.
well we get two messages from him, seems the same board that HIGHLY recomended me just COST ME A 500.00 JOB, thats a new a.c comp, a new dryer bottle, labor and everything not to mention, rays now sitting at the yard for NO ****ING REASON, yeah what people say on the net CAN hurt you, exactly why im pursuing certain people that have ADMITTED to purposley trying to harm my business.
so let this jack off go pay someone triple, yeah i got about 150 a/c compressors in stock, many literally like brand new, yeah im going to put a bad one in and screw you.
its hammer time, i WAS calming down, but thats it, all hells cutting loose.
****ing *******s want to cost me money? guess what, ill be returning the favor.
see how some simpleton who MIGHT not like me can say one thing and totally hurt my cashflow? and yes this guy was HIGHLY recomended to us by MANY saturn people he told us? then what? one jerk off hows probably never even bought something from us said, oh, joes a jerk, hell rip you off.
this is why ill be particpating less and less except for straight tech talk and would like to ask those of you THAT HAVE DEALT WITH US FOR YEARS, and even when their was a problem we stepped up to the palte to resolve it, to please, let yor voices be heard. this is NOT xrc. but because i alienated a bunch of people trying to WARN them that the end of xrc was coming, yes trying to help the community has done more harm then you can imagine. so please, keep our GOOD name out there to counter the childish vendettas that some jack offs have against me.
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Old 04-17-2003, 05:26 PM   #6
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Joey right? Usually.

A little rough around the edges? No, more like the meanest f*cking porcupine the world has ever known!

It's like I told ya, Joe: Given a little time, you'll be proven right, and you have.

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the less time i spend posting and the more time i spend searching im finding out more and more who my true allies are.
over on saturnspeed, tech section, bottom of the page post titled engine cradle and knuckle, the guys about to oay saturn 1400_+++++ bucks, did or can anyone go and post, hey joe at 6th planet has the engine cradle and Knuckle WITH SHIPPING FOR UNDER 300? save the guy 1100.00? is THAT so hard? are people going to flame you for doing so? people that ask me questions on a daily basis which i return ALL emails no matter how busy, EVEN WHEN PEOPLE BUY THE PARTS SOMEWHERE ELSE AND STILL COME TO ME FOR ADVICE... no-one can hit some of these tech boards and say, hey hit joey up, hes got a good rep and will get the parts to you.
its been known me and mike bard have long decided to let our argument drop, we have HUNDREDS of satisfied customers on satspeed, and no-one can save this guy 1100.00?
THATS what im talking about.
theres four major boards, half dozen little ones, and the tech SECTIONS ARE FULL OF PEOPLE OVERPAYING FOR PARTS.
for all these years of answering questions, giving tech advice, can some of you PLEASE SEND SOME PLUGS MY WAY?
im pretty surprised at the sheer amount of posts where people DO NOT say call joey.
people spend all day on the net, people send me posts everday where my name is mentioned, some i think just to try and rattle me, like when project posted my teeth pictures, hey it was a joke, im cool with it.
but these same people that spend hours watching these other boards cant type one sentence? contact joey at 6th planet hell help you?
if someone responds crappy, dont turn it into a flame fes thats what THEY WANT, so as to make me look like the bad guy,simply say, the guy doesnt have ONE bbb complaint, and 20k customers and LESS THEN A DOZEN AFTER AL THESE YEARS I COULDNT MAKE HAPPY. ****ing saturn has FAR more complaints then i do, yet people will tell someone go to the dealer? a engine cradle is a NON MOVING PART, unless i was some fly by night like my copycat yards and sent him a bent one, whcih reall, do any of you think id do that? its NON MOVING PART, SO IN OTHER WORDS, BASICALLY RISK FREE, AND SAVE 1100 BUCKS? cmon folks. spread the word....
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Old 04-17-2003, 05:52 PM   #8
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W O R D

Is that spread enuff fer ya?

The board only allows one space between words, so that's the best I can do...

BWHHAHA...

I STILL call BS too ma-fugger

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Joey, I dunno man, but I do notice alot of people DO recommend you. Especially on this board.
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and why do you think that is?

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