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06-24-2007, 01:49 PM
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you are assuming that because you have a more open air box, that you're getting more air into the engine. That may not be true, as the filter is probably the largest restriction. Even if more air makes it into the lower part of the air box, it's very possible that no more air is making it into the intake tubing than before. Even if it is, it could be a little warmer air, which contains less oxygen, which would offset any slight increase in air volume.
you are right that more air & fuel in general will mean more power, but it's dependent upon the correct air to fuel ratio. Too much or not enough fuel can mean power loss, and if the PCM can't adjust for the amount of oxygen (amount of air with temperature taken into account), then it can't get the A/F ratio close to the best mix (stoichiometric), and you can get power loss. That's why tuning is so important.
| Thanks for the clarification. I do have a K&N air filter which generally allows more air flow. Therefore, with more air allowed into the air box, the intake should be able to pull more air in. Also I thought Saturns ran naturally rich on the air/fuel mixture anyway. So adding in the extra air should help with that and atleast make the car more fuel efficient. May be in my head or not. But I'm happy with the results anyway.
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Originally Posted by GoldieGoldie97 most of the idiots who try to rig up some sort of "free air" system instead of just spending 100-300 bucks on a good solid intake think the smallest things produce these hidden effects. | no... im nearly broke and cant afford to just spend $100-300
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06-25-2007, 03:37 AM
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well i was obviously implying that you should SAVE until you can do it properly, just like a turbo system or anything aftermarket. if you don't have the money, and want to ghetto rig it, you may find the SMALLEST performance gain, but nothing truely noticeable. you should have figured that out by all the responses this post has receieved already. | |
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06-25-2007, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldieGoldie97 well i was obviously implying that you should SAVE until you can do it properly, just like a turbo system or anything aftermarket. if you don't have the money, and want to ghetto rig it, you may find the SMALLEST performance gain, but nothing truely noticeable. you should have figured that out by all the responses this post has receieved already. | removing the resonator and shortening tube in the airbox is free... it isnt like im settling for buying an intake that doesnt fit and has a restrictive filter.
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06-25-2007, 06:48 AM
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You aren't getting more air into the engine. It would just be flowing better with an intake. Atmospheric pressure doesn't change. | |
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06-26-2007, 02:28 AM
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hey now, first rule of trying to sell a car is you bump the car up not tear it down! especially when i'm trying so hard to show these saturn-obsessed domestic ppl that imports pwn! sheesh trowa!
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Originally Posted by GoldieGoldie97 hey now, first rule of trying to sell a car is you bump the car up not tear it down! especially when i'm trying so hard to show these saturn-obsessed domestic ppl that imports pwn! sheesh trowa!
what he MEANT to say was.. lol | PSHHHHH It will be fixed this week. 
It was from all that dohc engine madness that blew the whole muffler system off. That is pure honda power. LOLERSKATES !
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06-26-2007, 08:31 PM
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Vtec kicks in when in reverse !
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