installed this yesterday, i'm running 160 WHP now

GoldieGoldie97 · 06-15-2005, 01:29 PM

okay, that's a dirty lie, but check this out!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...981059599&rd=1

this might be the worst 1) ebay listing for a 'mod/power chip evARRR' and 2) the worst mod/power chip evARRR!

*sigh* i wish ebay would have moderators like Spot..

-goldie

PurdueGuy · 06-15-2005, 04:07 PM

ha! I like the little money gauge scribbled on some paper with a pen. lol

CAmos · 06-15-2005, 04:58 PM

Yea,

I great sales tool.

http://i19.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/2b/f4/e7_1_sbl.JPG

Gonna have to get me one of those.

Especally since they say;

"Did we mention your car will be faster!!!!"

white_shadow · 06-16-2005, 02:01 AM

so, what exactly does it do? i mean my saturn needs all the help it can get but....

the Shaolin UWP · 06-16-2005, 02:32 AM

It's a resistor that makes the engine think it's getting less air than it really is, thus increasing the gas flow, no?

scottyr94 · 06-16-2005, 02:43 AM

No, it tricks the pcm into thinking the incoming air is cooler than it really is. Cooler air is denser, thus the pcm adjusts the air/fuel ratio accordingly and make it run richer. Saturns already run rich the way it is, this is why chips and things like this do absolutely nothing for Saturns.

my99sl1 · 06-16-2005, 02:46 AM

except burn a hole in your pocket!

white_shadow · 06-16-2005, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by scottyr94

No, it tricks the pcm into thinking the incoming air is cooler than it really is. Cooler air is denser, thus the pcm adjusts the air/fuel ratio accordingly and make it run richer. Saturns already run rich the way it is, this is why chips and things like this do absolutely nothing for Saturns.

so, since they run rich ( which i did not know ) theortically by just giving the engine more airi could pick up some hp? im not gonna go do anything to my saturn, with 146k on the clock and a tranny on the fritz its staying the was it it till i decide on whether to sell it or fix it.

PurdueGuy · 06-16-2005, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by white_shadow

so, since they run rich ( which i did not know ) theortically by just giving the engine more airi could pick up some hp?

That's the idea behind aftermarket intakes - they're able to get more air in more quickly. Cold air intakes also have the advantage of bringing in air that's cooler and denser, since it's not coming from inside the engine compartment. A warm air intake will give you *maybe* as much as about 4 hp, while a really good cold air intake will give you *maybe* as much as 10 hp. That's at your peak power output, not across the board, though.

white_shadow · 06-16-2005, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PurdueGuy

Quote:

Originally Posted by white_shadow

so, since they run rich ( which i did not know ) theortically by just giving the engine more airi could pick up some hp?

That's the idea behind aftermarket intakes - they're able to get more air in more quickly. Cold air intakes also have the advantage of bringing in air that's cooler and denser, since it's not coming from inside the engine compartment. A warm air intake will give you *maybe* as much as about 4 hp, while a really good cold air intake will give you *maybe* as much as 10 hp. That's at your peak power output, not across the board, though.

thats what i was thinking. not really worth it. i mean im starting out with what ~95hp, and the cai might bump it to 100hp on a good day?