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Old 01-24-2005, 01:29 PM   #11
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S class was the best. all these ion and vue look like 2 year old made them.

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Old 02-10-2005, 02:02 AM   #12
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is it me or does the aura look like it's based on the same platform as the pontiac g6?

and get rid of the ion? the ion is the reason i bought a saturn. plus a buddy i work with has an 02 sl2, and he said he wishes he waited for the ion. not to start a war or anything, but the ion was a much needed step. the s series is a good car, but it was time for a change.
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i still think it looks alot like the Galant
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:32 AM   #14
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It will be a G6 with new sheetmetal from what I understand. Should be decent, but it's always dissapointing to me to find out that something is just a reworked something else.

The S-series is, in my opinion, the only true Saturn. All the others have been the work of GM overall, who designed a car and then said "where should we put it?" Like the Sky, they made the car, then asked themselves where they could sell it.

The S-series is all Saturn. By that, I mean that it came from the experiment that Saturn started out as. I study many business and human resource things, and Saturn comes up from time to time because it was groundbreaking in labor-management relations. Now it has become pretty much just another GM nameplate. At least the experiment had some good effects, and I know some of the "alternative" work practices are still maintained (from what I understand) at the spring hill plant. I toured the plant a few months before they quit making the S-series.
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Old 02-23-2005, 06:57 PM   #15
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i thought it was GM Corporate would engineer a chassis (delta, sigma, etc), and then the divisions would pick out the ones they wanted to build cars on...pending corporate approval of course? i didn't know it was gm corporate who decided what went where.
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I'm not sure how much is done corporately and how much is done by divisions, but I know that overarching stategies are developed corporately. Often simmilarities go way beyond platform, too. It sometimes just takes some sheetmetal changes to turn one car into another. From what I've seen the Ion and Cobalt are only different in sheetmetal and interior, but I could be wrong on that.

Of course, then there were the days when all it took was changing the badges on the car... like with my '76 mercury monarch (identical to the ford grenada, except the badges, and if I remember right, they tried to get another $5-10K for the mercury version when it was new)
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