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Old 11-11-2015, 03:01 PM   #1
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Old 11-16-2015, 04:32 AM   #2
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I apologize for not seeing this sooner.

I believe the power steering motor is under recall. Although I am not 100% for the Vues. I read the first half, and was honestly going to say check the sway bar bushings or end links/stabalizers. It is really hard to diagnose a noise when we cant actually hear it.

To me, pep boys, walmart, firestone, etc. aren't "mechanics". They are just part changers.

Hopefully this fixes your problem though, and thank you for checking back in. I greatly appreciate you sharing this issue with us!
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:42 PM   #3
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doesn't look like any recalls for power steering.
Do the noises change/go away when your foot is on the brake?

And one of the only things I can think of that would break both front struts out from under the vehicle without damaging the bumper or body is


1) a LARGE curb or I beam which did not yield in the least and was high enough and/or the SPEED was high enough to jam the front half axles almost straight up, blowing out the struts via overcompression.

That being said, the next thing I'd be worried about would be the half axles. I don't believe they are designed to move to that extreme. Physically possible? Technically yes. Might they be damaged in the process? Dunno--not my specialty -- just food for thought.

Might also want to carefully examine the front end frame. I just can't believe the driver hit only the wheels of the vehicle in the crash

1)Bad rack? From the crash, I'm not buying it, unless it is visibly damaged.
2)E PS Pump? Could be contributor towards the groaning, but PS pumps all groan. Hydraulic ones just groan differently. Can prob replace yourself if so inclined.
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Old 11-21-2015, 01:34 AM   #4
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Old 11-21-2015, 04:48 PM   #5
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Glad to hear it was indeed the E PS pump---well not glad to hear it, glad its replacement solved your issues. Certainly not where I would think to look.

I'm surprised to hear you say you replaced almost the entire front end to no avail. You strike me as a "think - then do" kinda guy, so I'm surprised to hear that you replaced a bunch of suspension stuff first before going for a 2nd diag. Anyway it's in the past.

However, this scenario demonstrates the strengths and weaknesses of online forums. The array of knowledge is incredible; picking out what is true/sensible from what is there is an entirely different thing.

A whole bunch of people may be shotgunning parts chasing a noise of unknown origin --which admittedly is driving them crazy--because they are POSITIVE the noise must be coming from Here, There, etc. It gets very tempting when you are aggravated and your experience with past vehicles is screaming at you to look in Spot A when the sound is coming from a component you'd never suspect.

It's fine to attempt diag, and maybe replace some inexpensive wear prone parts, but it gets really expensive when you start shotgunning and lose all sense of reason.

I myself have found access to a lift to be enormously helpful (45 min drive but worth it). Even propping up the entire front end on jackstands just isn't the same when searching for mystery sounds. Having the car way up in the air lets you manipulate things with all of your available strength, if needed, to find worn bushings, mounts, etc that you could not otherwise access or tug on hard enough.

The Pep Boys experience is typical.

--If your PS works and the system is not leaking, why would it be bad? I'm sure it's possible but not my first guess
--If someone shows me the E PS Pump is the source of the noise, why on earth would I need a new steering column?

As you are mechanically informed about automobiles, the fishy smell was strong and you walked away. It's unfortunate that not everyone has the wherewithal to either bring a knowledgeable person along or just say no in round 1 and get the diag reviewed by someone who knows what's what.

On a closing note, I had my local Firestone shop install a set of brand new tires on 18yr old 15" saturn rims. Unbeknownst to me, one of the wheels had begun to corrode where the tire bead meets the wheel. After about 2 years, it began slow leaking, than faster leaking. I took it to a local independent tire shop recommended to me.

4 guys around the bubble tank could not find a leak.
The gentleman performing the service (6'4", all muscle) dismounted the tire, took one look at the rim and said in a disbelieving voice, WHO MOUNTED THESE TIRES? I told him a Firestone shop in NJ. He just shook his head, got out his steel brush wheel, and carefully evened out the mating surface.

Tire mounted
Tire filled
Tire on car
Car on Road

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Old 11-22-2015, 12:03 AM   #6
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We are here to help.
We definitely value you sharing this experience with us, and hopefully it will help someone else down the road having this issue.

Feel free to stop in anytime and say hello, and let us know how the vue is doing
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:45 AM   #7
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Have you taken a look at your motor mounts?
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:06 AM   #8
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Have you read the part about where the problem is already solved?
Guess not.
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Old 11-23-2015, 01:13 PM   #9
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:28 PM   #10
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WOW....Please forgive me for just skimming over the first few posts. Rest assured, in the future I will be much more diligent with my reading comprehension before I post a suggestion. Thank you for all your kind words derfderf and John. I wish both you the best of luck on all your future endeavors.

By the way, the handle "shaker' comes from the type of furniture I make.
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